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Garrett Fowler.'s avatar

Great piece, Brad.

If you're not having some fun, what's the point? Don't take it all so seriously.

Have fun, spread love, and be greater.

Kiera Kelly's avatar

Absolutely! I wrote a piece on a similar subject last week about how the greatest creative achievements have come from play. From The Beatles, Tolkien, Rick Rubin talks about it a lot too. In the age of optimisation we've forgot the true essence of genius.

Brad Stulberg's avatar

I’ll have to check out that piece!

Kiera Kelly's avatar

Thanks, Brad. I went down a rabbit hole finding amazing examples of genius through play and serendipity. Play and trust is where great art is made. https://kierakelly.substack.com/p/what-play-knows-rick-rubin-the-beatles

Sherri Donohue's avatar

Hustle-porn, grindslop, grindmaxxing, hustle-culture... I've just expanded my vocabulary!

If whatever you're doing isn't fun, what's the point of doing it? There is hard work involved, but there's the joy and satisfaction of accomplishment and a job well done.

The 10,000 hour (or reps) was hammered into us in Kung Fu. However 10,000 (or whatever number) of shit reps results in shit results. Deliberate quality is key whether it's sports or writing or whatever.

Thank you for making my morning read both enjoyable and a learning experience.

Brad Stulberg's avatar

Love this comment! Thank you for being here, reading, and sharing!

Dale Sheptak's avatar

This really resonates. I think we have confused discipline with suffering for far too long, as if the pain itself somehow proves the seriousness of the pursuit.

Brad Stulberg's avatar

Well said.

Michael Kennedy's avatar

Love it. I spent decades in the car business where "grindslop," was a badge of honor. It still is. But it's a lie. It leads to health issues and in many cases, divorce. Not just from one's spouse, but from one's sense of joy and happiness. The Pike Place Fish guys of Seattle figured this out long ago. "Play" is part of their ethos.

Brad Stulberg's avatar

Thanks for sharing this, Michael. And I’m glad you found your way to a new mentality!

Garrett Fowler.'s avatar

Great piece, Brad.

If you're not having some fun, what's the point? Don't take it all so seriously.

Have fun, spread love, and be greater.

Brad Stulberg's avatar

Good little slogan right there.

Terry Vemeylen's avatar

Most people conflate hard work with suffering. You're right to separate them. But when the work is wrong for you, hard work turns into suffering — that's the part worth naming.

I lived both sides of that. Thirty years as a solution architect, and for a chunk of it I was the guy with the color-coded Gantt chart, convinced that if I just planned hard enough I could out-control the outcome. That's not discipline. That's fear wearing a suit. I eventually walked away from a client who'd grown abusive — screaming in meetings, moving goalposts without notice — because I finally understood the difference between effort and suffering. One builds you. The other just wears you down and calls it a badge.

The Ericsson point you're making — that it's not hours, it's what you do in them — maps onto something I keep coming back to: effort isn't the same as nervous output. Early in my career I thought hard work meant late nights, jaw clenched, inbox pinging like electric shocks. That wasn't excellence. That was anxiety with a to-do list. Real effort is quieter. It's presence, attention, doing the actual thing in front of you instead of performing busyness at it.

And your "fit before grit" point — that's the whole architecture. You can't grind your way into work that isn't yours. I found mine leading process mapping sessions — brown paper on the wall, Post-its, Sharpies, teams that had been butting heads for years suddenly building something together. I had genuine fun running those rooms once people realized we were making real breakthroughs through collaboration instead of combat. That fun wasn't a byproduct. It was the signal I was in the right work.

Haaland having fun while being ferocious isn't a contradiction. It's what it looks like when the fit is right and the grit still shows up anyway.

Terry Vermeylen — author of The Input Effect: Master What You Control, Maximize What You Get (Feb 2027)

Pete Howard's avatar

Work smarter, not harder. Work on improving your best skills, and your weaknesses. And have fun along the way. Life should not be a grind every damn day.

André Volsteedt's avatar

Well written and very true keep up the great inspiring work Brad

Scenarica's avatar

Ericsson's own finding cuts against the "fun" framing slightly. Deliberate practice is effortful by design. Elite performers don't enjoy the reps in the moment. They tolerate them because the domain has meaning. The state where joy and intensity coexist isn't fun exactly. It's absorption. You stop noticing which one you're experiencing, and that's when the hours compound without burning you out.

Brad Stulberg's avatar

Right. I say as much in the piece!

Simon Evan-Cook's avatar

An interesting movie to spark good conversation on this subject is Whiplash. Specifically, is the conductor character right in his intense approach? I'm still not sure if the movie was saying it was right or not...

The MENTOR Magazine's avatar

A great read as usual! Thanks for sharing.